Going out on a limb...
Interesting to note that the secret Operation Northwoods document was declassified in 1997 through the JFK Records Collection Act of 1992. I know it sounds crazy and all conspiracy theorist, but I'm becoming convinced that the JFK assassination is connected to the same people who are running the show now.
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The President John F. Kennedy Assassination Records Collection Act of 1992 created the Assassination Records Review Board as an independent agency to re-examine for release the assassination-related records that federal agencies still regarded as too sensitive to open to the public. The Board finished its work on September 30, 1998, issued a final report, and transferred all of its records to the National Archives and Records Administration. link
Perhaps people working behind the scenes (whistleblowers) have been trying to come out with information for years to warn us about the people we are dealing with? I imagine having any part of this information would make anybody more than a little nervous about stepping into the light.
JFK's assassination has never been solved to everyone's satisfaction and now there's about 80+% who believe there needs to be a new investigation into his murder. I think that 9/11 as well as JFK's assassination were all part of the same plan...to change the world and JFK's vision was a threat.
posted by Accidental Antagonist @ 9:46 AM
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4 Comments:
I posted this on a private forum and below are a few of the replies I got there:
You are right. Who had the power to pull of the assassinations (also MLK and RFK) and the cover-ups and get away with it? The same question re 911. There is only one answer, and it is not the president. Prouty called it the "secret team," but later in his life recanted to some extent and insisted that the CIA was not behind it. We can invent all manner of designations for the mechanism: "national security state," "military-industrial-intelligence-complex," etc.--and all of these are infinitely more accurate than "Zionists," "Bilderbergers," "Illuminati," etc., because the former correctly place the blame and responsibility inside the government, not outside. None of these events could have happened without the full and active complicity of the armed forces and the intelligence "services," regardless of who happened to be in the White House at the time. That of course leads us to confusion, because the president is supposed to be the head of the govt, and therefore, since we know he is not, we have the tireless speculation (much of it to be witnessed in this forum) about myriad other actors in the game. All of this may be true, but the point I keep boring people with is that we only have one govt, and we only know the way it is supposed to work, not how it actually works. Therefore, the only course of action we have is to insist on making it work properly. That boils down to a very, very simple call to action: Grab your congresspeople by the balls (even if they don't have any). Until that happens, nothing else will.
another comment:
JFK made a lot of enemies. Fired CIA director dulles, announced he was going to reduce CIA roles to intell only, announced he was going to start withdrawing from the golden triangle, signed executive order 11110 stating that the US treasury was going to start striking currency in direct violation to the Federal Reserve, and rfk was fighting mafia\cia.
yeah, I'd say they made some enemies.
GHW Bush was in the CIA at that time, and I have heard that he, LBJ and Hoover were the ones that made the decision.
patriot
my response:
There's a lot of weird but unusually logical information available online. This is a website I've glanced at in the past. I have glanced at a lot of things and bookmarked so many that my computer might be a threat to national security. [smile]
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i don't know how i come across online. some people accuse me of paranoia, or of overstating my importance. paranoia is a pejorative that describes the fear many of us are feeling as we crawl further down this rabbit hole. Overstating my importance by the fact that I am a nobody student/mid-western housewife who has had a strange experience that makes me believe that we ignorant masses are a threat to them so we are definitely being watched. We're all important to this cause because if we didn't stand together we would be easier to discredit or be disposed of. If there was ever a time that collectivism was a good thing, it's now. We have to focus on our similarities rather than our differences and let the truth stand alone. To borrow our esteemed host's nickname...we need to only be looking at hard evidence. As JFK's murder is over 40 years old and independent researchers have uncovered much hard evidence that actually implicates major players in the game today, I don't think we can ignore the JFK connection to 9/11..
More comments and response to post:
You forgot JFK Jr.
Let's see. A 'George Bush' was in the CIA at the time of JFK's assassination. Someone looking the splitting image of G.H.W. Bush was seen in Dallas on that very same day.
This same G.H.W. Bush went on to become CIA Director under Watergated Nixon and, because of that role, has ever since had authorisation to see everything about everything.
This same G.H.W. Bush went on to become President on 3 consecutive occasions (twice under Reagan).
This same G.H.W. Bush's 'favourite step-son' became a two-term President following him.
This same G.H.W Bush's real son became a two-term fake-President following Clinton.
This same G.H.W. Bush was seen, together with his son, and both Clintons in the area at the time of JFK Jr.'s take off. The White House Staff cannot account for the whereabouts of Shrub during this period.
Under no circumstances could the planning behind 9/11 have been all the work of Shrub. Neither could the planning for Afghanistan, nor Iraq. A lot of it must have been inherited from Clinton.
Yes … I think there might be a connection between 9/11 and JFK (and RFK, and JFK Jr,). I think that connection might very well be called 'G.H.W. Bush' (aka 'Poppy' & 'Magog').
(Oh, by the way, this same G.H.W. Bush was seen, together with Rudy Giuliani, in Harrogate (northern England) on 7/7. We don't have any more info than this. Heaven alone know what they were up to ... but then ... a someone said ... Harrogate is a very weird place. The same G.H.W. Bush is also tied in with Iran-Contra, and the October Surprise. He sure gets around, doesn't he?)
my response:
Where's the hard evidence backing up the claims in your post? That's what I'm talking about. I haven't heard any of these because I haven't gone that deep. Are there sources to back these up?
There are documents and itineraries and press releases that can tie these things together. We have to be meticulous.
her comeback:
Katncandy,
I didn't make up what I said. I wouldn't have written it if I hadn't seen documents to prove it, or (as Reflecter pointed out) pretty well researched-videos (the JFK series), etc. The Iran Contra and October Surprise stuff also comes from Webster Tarpley.
No, I didn't keep notes. I didn't have any intention of building up a case to prosecute Poppy Bush.
On the other hand, if you want references, I could spend the time finding them I think. After all, I found them once in my life.
my response to her comeback:
thanks, but i'm not one who could do much with the information. it'd be nice to see it all compiled for recorded history, though. i'm nobody but some nosey, paranoid student/momma with an insatiable curiosity about the world we'll be leaving our children.
yet another participant's response:
JFK II covers alot of that and JFK murdersolved. THe film maker is pretty adamant about the Bush connection. I havent delved into it but its certainly intersting and probable. It just feels right even if its wrong.
my response:
Lately those who are trying to sway my opinion accuse me of looking only at things that bolster my already concluded opinion. Of course, i can't prove to them that the information that convinced me came mostly from mainstream sources and historical documents. I have considered that a lot of websites are indeed biased towards their own agenda, but also know that a lot of the evidence they present would be admissable in a court of law...such as government documents, memos and other communications that have been recorded for historical purposes. (guessing, as I am definitely no lawyer)
For instance, would Operation Northwoods be admissable as evidence in a case about 9/11?
another comment from somebody else:
Have a nice next couple of decades looking into the "hard evidence" re JFK, MLK, RFK, etc. There's plenty of it. Those of us who have been through it all are pretty fed up, I suspect. At least I am. There is no question in my mind about who killed JFK et al. or why. I have written about it. It makes no damn difference at all. I still have some hope that 911, being closer to the bone and really much, much more transparent, will cause a sea change, but frankly I am pessimistic.
This is not a question of evidence at all. It is pure politics. The issues of solidarity and activism are the only issues. The rest is smoke and mirrors. There is a very simple answer to all that has happened, and there are plenty of people around that are saying it, especially now, loud and clear. 911 was an inside job. The "evidence" is in (that is, not in, which is the same), and it's not going to get any better. The only remaining question is whether enough political force can be gathered to do anything about it.
I have said before that barring some further cataclysm, it will take the appear of a political messiah--maybe a student housewife from the midwest, you never know where one might appear. I realize how pathetic this sounds, and it is not my preference for how humanity should be; it's just what I have been forced to conclude.
my response to this:
well, i got the student/midwest housewife thing down but i doubt i can reach the pinacle of political messiah...lol...but i do understand what you are saying. it only takes one who is persuasive enough to convince others and since the whole concept is really a matter of common sense, that one could be anybody.
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